Some of you have already noticed that the site is back up
and you can now login to your back offices.
Here are the plans at the moment.
We are hoping to launch the free portion of the traffic exchange
next weekend. This is not concrete, so don't hold me to it. You never
know what can happen in programming. However the programmer
seems to think that is possible.
The contest will end wednesday night at midnight eastern time.
Then I will split up the referrals for the winners. This could take
a day or 2.
We will load all of the info we have in the free matrix and then I will
send everyone their new login info for the traffic exchange.
You will have a new affiliate link in the traffic exchange back office.
We will do away with the free matrix all together at that time and
you will be able to recruit directly to the traffic exchange.
This should not take to long.
Everyone will be loaded as a free member.
Once we add the upgrade to the exchange it is totally up
to you if you want to be a pro member.
The site lists the benefits of both right now.
After we launch and everything seems to be working ok we will
work on adding the upgrade for pro members.
As free members, it will work something like this.
If you recruit people, and they surf for credits any given day.
Then you can earn half of the credits they have earned from surfing
that day if you have surfed at least 3 sites that same day.
Plus you can get commissions also as a free member on upgrades
or products that your recruits may buy.
Free members have a 3-1 surfing ratio.
Meaning you surf 3 pages and earn 1 credit for your url.
Pro members will get matching credits from their recruits surfing
any given day if they themselves surf 3 sites that day.
Pro members will have a progressive surfing ratio.
Check the site to see that.
Since we have a programmer, we will put a section up for ideas
on products that you would like to see or products that you would
think would be big seller items so that you can earn commissions.
We want to make products that everyone would like to have.
There is no matrix anymore.
Just the traffic exchange.
You only get commissions on sales from people you recruit or make sales
to.
We will use this traffic exchange to build the team.
If you can please keep questions in the forum unless it is a
technical issue of something not working or something. I don't have the time to reply to them right now. I will pop in here once in a while
to answer questions.
Right now we just want to get up and going.
Everyone needs to login to their free matrix account and make
sure they have your contact info right.
You will only need one account in the exchange per user.
So if you have more than 1 free matrix account in your name
or under the same email address then email me with the id#'s
you want removed.
If you have accounts for family members or friends in their names
but under your email address then either put the account under their
email address or have it removed also if they are not going to surf.
In other words one account per email address. _________________
Joseph Tackett
Admin
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:57 am Post subject: Re: June 29, 2007
[quote="admin"]Hi TEAM,
We will load all of the info we have in the free matrix and then I will
send everyone their new login info for the traffic exchange.
You will have a new affiliate link in the traffic exchange back office.
We will do away with the free matrix all together at that time and
you will be able to recruit directly to the traffic exchange.
This should not take to long.
Everyone will be loaded as a free member.
Plus you can get commissions also as a free member on upgrades
or products that your recruits may buy.
There is no matrix anymore.
Just the traffic exchange.
You only get commissions on sales from people you recruit or make sales
to.
We will use this traffic exchange to build the team.
Right now we just want to get up and going.
____________________________--
Dismayed.
But maybe I am reading this wrong.
Did we go from being unusual to what the norm is in the internet? Did we go from the team concept to the "You are on your own buddy, sponsor or get nothing out of this." philosophy?
The team concept is what has driven POAD. What do we hear constantly on the internet, "up to 95% of the people cannot or will sponsor anyone."
Poad was a team concept program. A way for many members to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Has the light been snuffed out?
But then I read this sentence "We will use this traffic exchange to build the team" so that puts a bit of a sparkle in my wee mind, that maybe we have not yet heard the whole story.
What about Tate's and Thomas' programs. Are we still going to join those programs. As we will have a matrix no more, and if we are to join them, how will we get entered into those programs?
Please tell me the team concept is still alive and well in our program. We were different, we were unique and we (I) want it to stay that way.
I am hanging to that sentence:"We will use this traffic exchange to build the team" as a life float in that maybe my wee mind did not read the update correctly: That I missed something in the meaning of the words. _________________
To quit before the finish line negates starting the race.
The reason it sunk was not only because of what he had to say about
the program we were all planning on, but it also blew my idea I have
had all along for when we had 20,000 members.
Therefore I have had to deal with it myself.
So we have went to a legal structure to build the team in.
What is the best way to build a large team?
Offer them what they need!
I have taken into consideration that there are people that cannot
recruit. If you notice, free members can even get commissions
in our exchange. Most people can recruit to something free.
Of course we are a team.
You never know what may come along some day.
By then we may be a huge team.
We even let people know we are a team on the 2nd page of the
site.
As you probably know yourself, traffic exchanges can get very big as
far as members.
We have a lot of money tied up in this exchange and we should
go ahead with it.
It is up to you if you want to recruit to it or not.
All I can do right now is to make everything the best that I can
for everyone. I know that I cannot please everyone. And I don't intend
to try to for that reason. But I can try to please the majority.
Also I cannot speak for thomas' or tates' programs.
They have to decide themselves if they are going forward
with their programs or not.
But the exchange won't be connected to them.
We have to build now legally.
These are the laws, not my opinions.
I know it is easy to be aggrevated right now, but would you have rather
had our program get investigated after you have quit your job and the
paychecks quit coming in?
I will never move from a team concept.
You don't need to worry about that. _________________
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:04 am Post subject: New Traffic Exchange
When we start the new exchange and do away with the free matrix, will our down line in the free matrix be our downline in the new traffic exchange or do we have to start recruiting a whole new downline? And if so, what is the purpose of splitting up the admin recruits into the downline of the free matrix?
Thanks for any information you can give.
I am here for the duration, and hope we can keep the team together.
Michael _________________
World Leader
Aulisio
"If you continue to do what you have always done--You'll continue to get what you've always gotten!!"
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:35 am Post subject: Hopeful
Joseph,
I am a novice at this, and I am not going to sit here and say that I have the answers. I do not, and I cannot even phantom the anquish and frustrations that you have experienced.
When you and I first came together, POAD was basically a downline builder in that we were building the team so that we could join on-going programs together with a downline ready, so that some members could start making some money quickly. And we were to take care of those joining later as all of us were building the same team, and noone was left alone.
We tried one program but that one program was not conductive to our goals so we left it and combed the internet for one that would work with us.
We tried others but we found that the matrix was to hard to fill, and that all of us were just working to keep the status quo of the matrix.
Agree, matrices are a pain in the rear and very hard to maintain.
However, matrices are in fact almost impossible to maintain when one is doing it alone. People join for a month, find out that they haven't obtained a downline and quit. A person may have only one in their downline and then the downline members quits, and the game continues as the original member will also quit and will join program after program, looking for that illusive dream
But hope lingers in all of us and you gave that hope to many of us. You reinvented the team concept and people were hearing about it and joining us. Yes, we had problems but we as POAD loyal members stuck to it.
Your leadership is unique and noone could ask for a better leader. And that is the reason that I and hundreds more have stayed with POAD. And why many of us will stay and help you with this new idea.
However, we need to keep that hope up. Our traffic exchange does not have to have a matrix, but keep taps on who has joined pro, sort of like a list that most gurus always rave about, and let's seek out an outside program, one that is already running and has passed the legal tests, and then give your list members a choice to join that program, by joining date of our TE. Our TE will not have a matrix; You will have a list of potential customers, as all gurus do, and you then give them the opportunity to join us in other endeavors.
What is the saying on the internet "it is all in the list." You have a strong list of good loyal friends and "clients" that will follow you into any business that are legit and are potential money making programs.
Tate and Thomas have been loyal to POAD. Give us, the members who want to join you with them the change to follow you into those programs.
Once we have enough members in those programs, give the lower level members a chance to join another program first. Sure the "flipping" of personnel into other programs is not 100% foolproof, but it does help those people at the bottom. In one matrix you will have so many satisfied members, in the next matrix your satisfaction rate is doubled, and so on.
A pain in the rear? Yes. Will it work? Gurus said no, and others also say no, but they never had what you have with POAD. We are a bunch of loyal hopeful members of POAD that saw the potential in your dreams, and if anyone can make fools of those gurus POAD can. Our membership can make a flip successful.
----------------------
How many downline building sites do you see each day as your surf the web? A few, and a few new ones come in daily. They join a ready made program, from scratch and some have made it.
I joned GDI via a downline builder, and they are still in business and doing well. I see a new member in my downline often, as all members are building our downline in GDI.
Why would POAD not be as successful?
Another website-hosting programs is just starting. All of us have heard of the cash cow. I have not seen any downline building sites for that program. If I had, I would have joined as the cash cow will be just as big as GDI, maybe bigger as they offer more for your money.
Let's be the first to join that program with our membership.
If we stick to the "no it can't be done" cause no one else has done it, then we are only hurting ourselves. I belived that hundreds of us will follow you into a good paying program that offers residual monthy payments.
Most of us are doing this for the money. Greedy? You bet, but POAD is different in that we want to take care of all members. We need to put our thinking caps on and try some out.
Joseph, our POAD membership is such that if we do make money, some of us will gladly sponsor others. We have a back office. People needing sponsoring can be placed there. Members can adopt, and you are hands free of the whole deal. We sponsor, we take the responsiblity.
Being left alone is going to hurt us and we do not want to hurt POAD nor hurt your idea. You came up with a brilliant idea and it will work, putting all troubles aside, and continue with the dream.
Our TE, which belongs to POAD stays as is, legal but it can be used as a list maker. Use that list to grow POAD.
____________________
Granted, not all members can afford to join a program with monthy dues, but some of us can, and it only takes a few of us to make it work.
POAD started out with 18 members. What do we have now?
Let's build on that. You have some great minds with Tate and Thomas on your side. I bet that other members can and will be able to come up with something that will work for us in making our illusive dream come true.
I know I rambled and some of what I said may not be clear. I just wanted to put forth the idea that your main idea can be done, maybe not as fast as we wanted, but fast enough to satisfy all members who saw the dream with you.
Some of us will stay with you. Those that stay can and will build your dream.
Let's place thinking caps back on. Our TE can be the key.
Jess _________________
To quit before the finish line negates starting the race.
Jess, It would be futile to try to better articulate the feelings that you expressed in your last letter. I believe you speak for countless members of the Team through your words.
I have been with POAD for quite some time as well, and what I have come to realize through various ups and downs is that Our TRUE Asset is Each Other!
We have formed a TEAM, a Flock in Formation With a Strong Foundation. We have proved our Strength buy building a group from 500 to 5000 in a month. Our Core is a finely tuned marketing machine!
We Cannot Walk Away From The TEAM Concept! That's what POAD is: A Concept!
We can fail as many times as it takes to get it right, and it doesn't matter because we're all in it together.
We're not only willing to go for the long haul... We're willing to go for the Very Long haul... because its about getting it right and eventually achieving our goal together.
Joseph is an honest and democratic leader. I will always follow Joseph so as long as he chooses to lead us.
And if the best decision is to build the size of our Team via the POAD Traffic Exchange, then let's make a plan and do it.
So, we're 5000 strong and we have a strong core Team. What can we do with it?
LEE, where you at? You've always got an idea and good logic. _________________ Carpe Diem,
Matt Campbell
"THE GREATEST LOSS IN LIFE IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUMAN POTENTIAL AND ACTUAL ACHIEVEMENT."
It's clever Joseph. I've just looked at the new page we will be advertising. Serious marketers value the sort of information of this type that they can gather. It is 'marketing intelligence'. In traditional marketing a lot of money changes hands for this. Can we take this further eventually? Maybe by looking at the questions that advertisers want answered and gradually refining what we offer. No-one else does this as far as I know. Perhaps a higher level of service for customers/advertisers who want a more customised service would be appropriate.
We've got tons of talent here and some hard workers who are determined to make it work. Let's build on this and it will work.
I have stuck with POAD for almost a year believing in the team system. I have been recruiting for myself and my team members as I knew it would help everybody with the team load. Apparently not now. It is just another 'do it yourself' traffic exchange with commissions if you are lucky.
Plan 4 Power seem to have a team recruitment system in place. I am only in Phase one so don't know which programs they are in.
Thanks for getting this turned around so quickly that some members might stick with it. We will see. _________________
World Leader
Diane Cooke
I have to applaud the changes! The problems with the matrix concept needed ironed out, and probably couldn't be done in time for an August launch.
The traffic exchange as it is now provides exceptional value compared to the same priced pro upgrade at other traffic exchanges, and provides excellent earning potential for free members.
About the only change I'd suggest is to distribute unreferred members among the free members, too. If you need pro members to have an advantage, do a two for one ratio, for every free referral a free member gets, a pro member will get two.
Edit: Another option is to give pro members a checkbox that allows them to donate every X of their personal referrals to a free member who has the fewest referrals at that point. I'd suggest X being 10, and would be more than willing to check that box.
This keeps in the team building concept that attracted so many to PoaD in the first place.
As I have been working closely with Joseph over the past few months on this, I would like to try and answer a few of the questions that are on everyone minds.
First, Not to worry, the POAD team concept and it's future is still strong, just being reworked to keep everyone's future safe and secure. Also, there are team building concepts that are in the works that will help everyone be able to recruit and gain customers.
During the many hours that I have spent talking to Joseph over the past few days, I have heard the anguish and disappointment in his voice over the situation that has happened. He has put forth and continues to put forth a great effort to help people, and it hurts when outside forces come together to make it seem worthless. He still believes strongly in our team and is doing everything in his power to make the team building concept a reality.
It is a great honor to work with someone of such integrity and such loyalty to the people that follow him. I will continue to give Joseph and the POAD team my full support.
Also, the database that holds everyone's downline information from the free matrix will be kept. When we find a way to work out the inherent flaws that a matrix program has and are able to implement a fully legal and secure program we will still have this information.
Next, everyone you've recruited into POAD will be placed under you in the new traffic exchange. They will be your customer, they will join free and can upgrade to pro if they want to, when the Pro area is launched.
You will only make credit overrides from their surfing until that time. In the new system even free members will be able to make commissions, which is hard if not impossible to find in most other traffic exchanges.
As for the programs that I was placing into the POAD system. They won't have the matrix structure that I was planning on using. For the same reasons Joseph had to drop the matrix. I am now in the process of reworking them, while at the same time I work with Joseph to get everything else worked out.
There are plans in the works to use these programs. As the new POAD system is launched, and other things are worked through, I will be able to give you more information on this.
If anyone has any questions that I have the answer to, I will be happy to help.
The POAD teams growth and security is our main focus,
Tate _________________ Life is precious, it's not a dress rehearsal. Live as if you're going to die tomorrow.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: New Traffic Exchange
7185 Michael wrote:
When we start the new exchange and do away with the free matrix, will our down line in the free matrix be our downline in the new traffic exchange or do we have to start recruiting a whole new downline? And if so, what is the purpose of splitting up the admin recruits into the downline of the free matrix?
Thanks for any information you can give.
I am here for the duration, and hope we can keep the team together.
Michael
I too would like to see an answer to Michael's question. When we launch and the free matrix is done away with, will we get to keep, at the very least, those whom we personally sponsored into the free matrix, regardless os whether we upgrade or not? _________________ Raymond D Weber
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: New Traffic Exchange
11193 wrote:
7185 Michael wrote:
When we start the new exchange and do away with the free matrix, will our down line in the free matrix be our downline in the new traffic exchange or do we have to start recruiting a whole new downline? And if so, what is the purpose of splitting up the admin recruits into the downline of the free matrix?
Thanks for any information you can give.
I am here for the duration, and hope we can keep the team together.
Michael
I too would like to see an answer to Michael's question. When we launch and the free matrix is done away with, will we get to keep, at the very least, those whom we personally sponsored into the free matrix, regardless os whether we upgrade or not?
Hello Raymond,
I believe I answered this in my last post
TateBurns wrote:
Next, everyone you've recruited into POAD will be placed under you in the new traffic exchange. They will be your customer, they will join free and can upgrade to pro if they want to, when the Pro area is launched.
_________________ Life is precious, it's not a dress rehearsal. Live as if you're going to die tomorrow.
When we start the new exchange and do away with the free matrix, will our down line in the free matrix be our downline in the new traffic exchange or do we have to start recruiting a whole new downline? And if so, what is the purpose of splitting up the admin recruits into the downline of the free matrix?
Thanks for any information you can give.
I am here for the duration, and hope we can keep the team together.
Michael
I will answer this question the best I can.
First everyone needs to understand what I mean by the word "downline".
"Downline" is everyone you may have had on your 1st level, 2nd level, 3rd level etc.
If this is what you meant by "downline" then the answer is no.
The downlines in the free matrix were never intended to mean anything
in any program if you remember because any program we went in
was to be loaded by ID#.
YES, you will keep anyone you have personally recruited.
That was the reason for the contest.
Whoever you show under the #4 link in your back office
will be carried over to the traffic exchange unless they want
removed.
Jess,
You said it right.
If you remember, we were building the team in a free matrix.
This is no different. Now it will be a traffic exchange instead.
This way while building you have a chance at making something
while building.
The right program will come along that we can take advantage of.
When they do, the team will vote on it.
If you want to see what I mean just look at the traffic exchanges
you may already belong to. Look at the membership numbers.
We want to offer a different type of exchange.
But make no mistake. Every product we make and every service
we provide we want to be the best so that recruiting becomes
easier and easier as products are made.
You don't need to be upgraded to be on this team.
I think we are all looking at this the wrong way. It is not the "end all program". It is simply a way to build bigger and bigger until the team figures out what they want to do. _________________
YES, you will keep anyone you have personally recruited.
That was the reason for the contest.
Whoever you show under the #4 link in your back office
will be carried over to the traffic exchange unless they want
removed.
Jess,
You said it right.
If you remember, we were building the team in a free matrix.
This is no different. Now it will be a traffic exchange instead.
This way while building you have a chance at making something
while building.
The right program will come along that we can take advantage of.
When they do, the team will vote on it.
If you want to see what I mean just look at the traffic exchanges
you may already belong to. Look at the membership numbers.
We want to offer a different type of exchange.
But make no mistake. Every product we make and every service
we provide we want to be the best so that recruiting becomes
easier and easier as products are made.
You don't need to be upgraded to be on this team.
I think we are all looking at this the wrong way. It is not the "end all program". It is simply a way to build bigger and bigger until the team figures out what they want to do.
Thanks Joseph, that answered my question. We just have to make sure we have our downline IDs filled out correctly in #4 and it will show up in the exchange as our downline.
Thanks for all your hard work for us Joseph. We certainly appreciate all you do on our behalf.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:12 am Post subject: New System.
Hi Joseph
I think this all looks really good and cant wait to get started. I do however have two questions.
1. Do our new recruits now not have to do the missions as there is no free matrix.
2. The questions relating to our advertising. Will they be vetted to see if the answer is relevant and to the point. As I am concerned that after surfing, studying an advert if my wording for the answer is not quite right I will then not be allocated the credit for doing so.
The reason I considered this to be a problem was when I was thinking of the question I would put forward for my ads I thought do I just give an either or answer to be given or what.
The opportunity that was presented to all of us was to me, almost "too good to be true". Joseph did the right thing.
That being said, the TE is still unbelievable in its potential to help each of us build whatever program(s) we're currently promoting. Traffic Exchanges in general, if worked correctly, are indispensible to my Online success. The POAD TE will prove to be the Ultimate in TE's.
Here is something else to think about... FREE MEMBERS MAKE MONEY WITHOUT UPGRADING... sorry for yelling but I've never seen this before in a TE.
I've got an incredible "main" program that I'm looking forward to promoting and as an Upgraded Member, I can promote 10 links which means I will be able to promote my two favorite ten dollar programs also.
I'm still very excited. _________________
General
Fisher
I read this thread with a little fear and trepidation. I'm new in POAD, but I did put over 800 in my downline during the prelaunch, so I think I contributed to the team and was happy to do so.
What bothers me is feeding the same organization into other programs such as GDI or it's clones that was mentioned above. No Thanks! I already tried most of the programs online and rejected them, so I'm not interested in joining another one that someone above me picked.
What's wrong with the TE the way it's defined? If anyone wants to make money they just need to promote it and earn, even if they are a free member. Then if they upgrade they can have so many credits in the exchange they would have to be brain-dead not to make money from showing websites that pay. Let everyone pick their own programs! The ones that know how to pick good ones will prosper and that's as it should be.
Jim Rohn said it best, "You can carry one, or maybe even two, and if you're Kareem Abdul Jabar you might carry three, but no one can carry a whole team on their back". That's where they came up with the saying, "Get Off My Back" because someone realized too many were getting a free ride on their back.
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